I thought there are many tools for rendering real-life scenes, but that Mathematica is not the one.

I see there is a buttocks question - does this really belong here?

What is the next thing? Finding volume of female breasts?

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    related - mathematica.meta.stackexchange.com/a/2225/9490
    – Jason B.
    Commented Dec 18, 2017 at 12:01
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    The fact that there are better tools for something does not make the question off topic. The fact that many (me too) do not like this kind of questions, does not make them off topic either. But I do not claim it should/should not be removed, I just want to clarify what is your question here :)
    – Kuba Mod
    Commented Dec 18, 2017 at 13:49
  • @Kuba So what do you think: Does that question belong here? It can't be simpler or clearer than that.
    – VividD
    Commented Dec 18, 2017 at 13:57
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    Please do not make me review it again :), better say on which basis do you claim it does not belong here. In current form your question is not so clear.
    – Kuba Mod
    Commented Dec 18, 2017 at 14:02
  • This is a question to be used as a start of discussion within community. The community should find and voice a collective answer according to its values, that's why we have 'meta'. If I had answered this question, you could have asked me for 'proof' or 'basis'. You can consider that I don't claim anything, that I just bring something to your attention, and it is for you to think. @Kuba
    – VividD
    Commented Dec 18, 2017 at 14:41
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    I am sorry, there is some kind of misunderstanding here. I don't want you to answer I just want you to be more precise/constructive in your doubts about mentioned question.
    – Kuba Mod
    Commented Dec 18, 2017 at 15:25
  • @VividD but if you think it is all you have to say, is my first comment a valid answer?
    – Kuba Mod
    Commented Dec 18, 2017 at 15:30
  • The soccer-ball question was one of the next things.
    – Michael E2
    Commented Dec 18, 2017 at 17:45
  • @MichaelE2 The soccer question is perfectly fine IMHO. But I don't connect it with the buttocks one at all.
    – VividD
    Commented Dec 18, 2017 at 18:01
  • @Kuba, I am bringing a topic to your attention. Your answer it about topic, not about myself or my question. That's how I view that question/answer dynamics, and if you want to respond, ANY answer of yours is valid, and should not depend on details of my question.
    – VividD
    Commented Dec 18, 2017 at 18:01
  • @Kuba I can also imagine that you have different opinions as a moderator and as a regular member, that would be IMHO understandable.
    – VividD
    Commented Dec 18, 2017 at 18:02
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    I don't personally like that question. But, I think that if a question brings joy to a large cross-section of the community, then it belongs here, as an exception if nothing else. At worst, it could be considered puerile; however, the question wasn't sexist, objectifying, or discriminatory in any way, so I don't see any legitimate rationale for refusing it, even if I myself would rather learn something about other subjects. There are simply too many questions on this site now for any of us to be concerned with them all. If it'd started a trend for questions about buttocks, that'd be different. Commented Dec 18, 2017 at 23:21
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    Please don't take this as a personal comment, but I actually have difficulty understanding what is different between the "draw buttocks" question and "draw a football" without some additional axiom that the human body is inherently shameful. We've discussed previously the general class of "how to draw x" questions, and as a community (if I recall rightly) we agreed that they should remain a small part of the site. Commented Dec 18, 2017 at 23:32
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    My opinion is that the bottocks question is appropriate for the site, even if distasteful for some. It does ask about solving a Mathematica problem and does not constitute abuse, spam or illegality. What I find it's not appropriate for the site are the attempt to impose a moral directives into the moderators that are not based on technical or legal grounds, but personal taste or religious perspectives. What in my opinion is distasteful is to imply that there is anything perverse with the human figure.
    – rhermans
    Commented Dec 19, 2017 at 14:47
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    Drawing buttocks using algorithms very likely fall prey to gender bias: Ask yourself what is the prevailing gender of MSE members posing and profiting from this question? (I should assume strongly male) To alleviate this bias one should maybe strive to draw the buttocks of an hermaphrodite? ;-)
    – gwr
    Commented Dec 27, 2017 at 12:06

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I personally dislike that question primarily because I believe it's been floated to the top by extra-communal voting. I find it disturbing that when I tell someone I am a top contributor and/or moderator on Mathematica Stack Exchange that one of first five Q&A's they are likely to see is that one.

Nevertheless I strongly object to your assertion, emphasis mine:

Buttock question is a disgrace for the site, huge failure of moderators. It is not a matter of morals, it is just without taste.

It is expressly (my understanding of) my role as a moderator that has stayed my hand in this matter. Unfettered by these perceived obligations I would have Locked the question as soon as I noticed apparent vote irregularities, which would have prevented further voting.

If our core community (not drive-by voters) thinks this question should be Locked it is their responsibility to communicate this to the moderators who were elected by them and, as limited only by the moderator agreement with Stack Exchange Inc., act on their behalf.


Yes, the buttocks question belongs here.


No, the buttocks question doesn't belong here.

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